tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post7298227470726588952..comments2023-03-26T02:23:43.274-05:00Comments on Zipse at the Track: Morning Line MistakesBrian Zipsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08592017304873334271noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-82766093998406400792010-03-20T13:40:21.392-05:002010-03-20T13:40:21.392-05:00Great write-up, I was thinking the same thing abou...Great write-up, I was thinking the same thing about Bambera's odds as everyone else it seems. It's going to look like a bargain if she lives up to her previous form in the US.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-20733340532252012512010-03-20T09:25:58.703-05:002010-03-20T09:25:58.703-05:00Hey Brian: Nice piece -- some of the m/l at GP thi...Hey Brian: Nice piece -- some of the m/l at GP this meet have been awful. Bambera line is one of many that are not just off but WAY off.Colins Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04949661490223464920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-86459017071694240642010-03-19T13:26:41.688-05:002010-03-19T13:26:41.688-05:00Thank you Sid Fernando! I pride myself on keeping...Thank you Sid Fernando! I pride myself on keeping up with stakes doings internationally, but there is no one who knows as much about the foreign runners as you. Find Sid at: http://sidfernando.wordpress.com/ and http://werk2.werkhorse.com/wordpress/Brian Zipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08592017304873334271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-70527070807408366192010-03-19T13:15:20.101-05:002010-03-19T13:15:20.101-05:00I agree with you Zip. However, to address some com...I agree with you Zip. However, to address some comments from readers and issues you touched upon, too:<br />1.Bambera is only a plain black type winner on Int'l form because her G1s in Venezuela are not recognized internationally as G1s. <br />2. Zardana, bred in Brazil, was a legit G2 winner here, plus Brazil is a country whose Graded races are recognized internationally.<br />3. There have been several high-profile failures of well-regarded Venezuelans here in the past.<br />4. The filly that Bambera defeated in the Clasico del Caribe, Vivian Record, is from Mexico, whose black type races are not recognized at all internationally.<br /><br />Given these factors, she perhaps should be 8-1, on handicapping, but as Zip pointed out that's not the realm of the ML maker.sid fernandohttp://www.sidfernando.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-84348355301918303792010-03-19T12:29:56.540-05:002010-03-19T12:29:56.540-05:00Bambera should be favorite, no doubt about that. I...Bambera should be favorite, no doubt about that. IMO, if Zardana, coming from South America can do what she did, imagine what Bambera, who is supposed to be even better, can do. Hopefully she runs to last year's form and can give Queen Z a run for her money in the AB.NetworkEmpowermenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09053022764177401200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-33006946847682942352010-03-19T11:22:56.294-05:002010-03-19T11:22:56.294-05:00I thought the exact same thing Kimness did when I ...I thought the exact same thing Kimness did when I saw Bambera at 8-1: "WTF, is this some kind of a mistake?" Look at the pps and you'll see an impressive string of wins in G1 stakes races at a mile and longer. Looks like the odds on favorite to me.Steve Mundayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07610339768009395207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-75561267649348685572010-03-19T11:08:03.381-05:002010-03-19T11:08:03.381-05:00Agree with every word. Also, quality linemaking is...Agree with every word. Also, quality linemaking is a lost art.<br /><br />I, too, would've made Bambera the ML favorite. No question.Erniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15358435623103470025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-63508805728750362762010-03-19T10:34:02.995-05:002010-03-19T10:34:02.995-05:00we have tissue prices in the paper over here that ...we have tissue prices in the paper over here that are similar. never to be trusted in my book..jus make ur own tissue...Ciaránhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13874396713831412722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-20245352706449834902010-03-19T10:20:00.149-05:002010-03-19T10:20:00.149-05:00I agree - when I was watching HRTV's "Aga...I agree - when I was watching HRTV's "Against the Odds" last night & I saw Bambera was @ 8-1, I was thinking WTF? and Im all over that one! <br />Same can be said about Lentenor - he'll be way over bet because he's Barbaro's baby brother.Kimnessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-66660375013428893322010-03-19T10:19:56.571-05:002010-03-19T10:19:56.571-05:00Strange RG...two different oddsmakers perhaps???Strange RG...two different oddsmakers perhaps???Brian Zipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08592017304873334271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-46673765599782116342010-03-19T10:18:10.957-05:002010-03-19T10:18:10.957-05:00Beulah Park gets snowed out a few weeks ago. Some ...Beulah Park gets snowed out a few weeks ago. Some of the races are on the card later in the week. Same horses,same distances but with very different ML odds.???<br />RGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-23135465838262395292010-03-19T10:04:14.680-05:002010-03-19T10:04:14.680-05:00the one min. handicapper mentions that what is mor...the one min. handicapper mentions that what is more important then morning line odds are the odds at first flash. His reasoning behind this is that all the inside information (owners, clockers, trainers) will bet the race early. Concept works on paper but isnt nearly as important as figuring out pace, and horse formC T Colemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-33308160689754887912010-03-19T09:58:39.369-05:002010-03-19T09:58:39.369-05:00I a feeling because she really isn't well know...I a feeling because she really isn't well known in the US... yet. She'll go off lower.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03268449154105039629noreply@blogger.com