tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post372255600560138101..comments2023-03-26T02:23:43.274-05:00Comments on Zipse at the Track: In with the New, Out with the PolycrapBrian Zipsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08592017304873334271noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-81994727793690529552010-12-06T17:21:16.756-06:002010-12-06T17:21:16.756-06:00"I think it was a mistake to mandate syntheti..."I think it was a mistake to mandate synthetic surfaces, what they should have done was to mandate a reduction in breakdowns over a period of time and let the tracks figure out a way to acomplish it."<br /><br />Well said Mike in SB ... let's hope they get this track right.Brian Zipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08592017304873334271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-69779604740946101212010-12-06T14:14:49.464-06:002010-12-06T14:14:49.464-06:00The synthetic surface at Santa Anita has been a bi...The synthetic surface at Santa Anita has been a big disapointment. It clearly has not worked as advertised, I don't know if this is the result of cutting costs when it was put in or not but I am happy it has been replaced. But Santa Anita cannot forget that just a few years ago the string of breakdowns in major races came close to killing racing. Horse racing will never be a major sport again if the safety of the horses is not improved. I think it was a mistake to mandate synthetic surfaces, what they should have done was to mandate a reduction in breakdowns over a period of time and let the tracks figure out a way to acomplish it. Santa Anita must make sure the new dirt surface is safe, if they just go back to the way it was 5 or 6 years ago racing in California will not survive.Mike in SBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-63760900137730193502010-12-05T18:45:09.086-06:002010-12-05T18:45:09.086-06:00the only thing worse than betting on these artific...the only thing worse than betting on these artificial surfaces is having to deal with these awful slow pace races around the country.this is the worst thing that has happened to racing as we are losing players to these nonsensical random results.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-74083870526296149482010-12-05T17:57:04.835-06:002010-12-05T17:57:04.835-06:00Fair enough, and certainly, no hard feelings.Fair enough, and certainly, no hard feelings.Brian Zipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08592017304873334271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-6934966764990845942010-12-05T17:50:10.173-06:002010-12-05T17:50:10.173-06:00Brian.
I'm not using a Google account, so I ...Brian. <br /><br />I'm not using a Google account, so I don't think I could delete the comment even if I wanted to. It was only up for 10-15 minutes anyway before I noticed it was gone. May have been a technical error.<br /><br />I appreciate you re-posting it. No hard feelings.Phar Lapnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-826395391149485902010-12-05T17:36:22.722-06:002010-12-05T17:36:22.722-06:00Phar Lap,
Is this some sort of game?
Since only ...Phar Lap,<br /><br />Is this some sort of game?<br /><br />Since only two people have the ability to delete a comment (Me and the person who authored the comment), and I did not delete the comment ... I must assume that you deleted the comment, and then complained that it was gone.<br /><br />Please do not do this again.<br /><br />Here is your comment ...<br /><br />"If synthetic surfaces fulfilled the promise of greater safety and more consistent surfaces, then maybe we could have lived with the long adaptation process of our horses."<br /><br />What will you say when the Jockey Club study concludes that synthetic surfaces lessen catastrophic breakdowns? Because let's be honest in the early numbers, there was a statistical difference in breakdowns on dirt and synthetics just not a big enough sample size. In due time.<br /><br />"Trying to change that may have been doable, but it was not practical. As horse racing struggles to keep its fan base and gambling dollars, now was not the time to go through a reinvention project that would take dozens of years to successfully complete."<br /><br />With our lax medication policy here, this is exactly what needs to happen. You do realize were another nationally televised breakdown from at best government intervention and at worst being put out of business? Would you argue this? If you take how many horses have broken down on the big days since 2000...it's only a matter of time.<br /><br />"Horsemen don’t like it. Gamblers don’t like it."<br /><br />I'm guessing you didn't talk to Richard Mandella, John T. Ward, Graham Motion, Kenny McPeek, etc. See this is what drives me crazy about the dirt schill's. They make false blanket statements about synthetics thinking they know or represent everything and everyone. You know just like favorites don't win at the same rate they do on dirt? Seems to me some gamblers have figured how to wager on it.<br /><br />While synthetics continue to expand everywhere in the world, I'll just wait for the California death count to pop back up in the newspapers...Brian Zipsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08592017304873334271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-6544728674577425492010-12-05T16:34:11.026-06:002010-12-05T16:34:11.026-06:00So comments get deleted when valid points are brou...So comments get deleted when valid points are brought up that you disagree with? <br /><br />Nice.Phar Lapnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-26030690903571063812010-12-05T15:43:13.890-06:002010-12-05T15:43:13.890-06:00I have yet to hear anything bad about Tapeta. Anyo...I have yet to hear anything bad about Tapeta. Anyone with any info?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-82106782050907831782010-12-04T22:04:31.063-06:002010-12-04T22:04:31.063-06:00The Knight Sky ,akes a valid point. However, top t...The Knight Sky ,akes a valid point. However, top trainers in So Cal and at Arlington both have told me the number one cause for the huge spike in fatalities the last few years they had dirt can be directly attributed to the severe cutbacks by Magna and CDI in the track maintenance and track equipment purchase budgets. Del Mar was a different story. no effort or expense was spared, but the breakdowns still came in droves.LetItRideMikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-40753254056195230142010-12-04T19:41:34.288-06:002010-12-04T19:41:34.288-06:00LetItRideMike said...
First and foremost, if the...<i>LetItRideMike said... <br /><br />First and foremost, if the HORSE DEATH COUNT box appears back in So. Cal newspapers, the whole future of CA racing will be at risk. </i><br />______________________________<br /><br />The future of California racing has been and will continue to be at risk if the CHRB continues with a neglected medication policy that makes these horses infirm or simply incapable of regular racing.<br /><br />How many horses were entered but scratched out of the Hollywood Park card today Saturday, December 4th? That's no way to cover the CHRB derriere. <br /><br />California has a medication policy and enforcement problem. Until that is addressed, satisfactory results from conversion to modern dirt courses will not be realized.The_Knight_Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13497100877439699363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-65577010645042989712010-12-04T18:55:30.468-06:002010-12-04T18:55:30.468-06:00Turfway Park running in the middle of winter with ...Turfway Park running in the middle of winter with the dirt freezing and thawing needed to do something to cut down on the many breakdowns/cancellations but why Santa Anita had to follow suit never made sense.<br />RGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-31892406682506389592010-12-04T18:33:40.149-06:002010-12-04T18:33:40.149-06:00I hate when someone generalizes and calls any synt...I hate when someone generalizes and calls any synthetic surface Polytrack!!! $&#! They are not all alike. In fact, they can be very different, for anyone who actually pays attention to them instead of just walking around saying how much they suck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-91401526458639825892010-12-04T16:10:34.007-06:002010-12-04T16:10:34.007-06:00First and foremost, if the HORSE DEATH COUNT box a...First and foremost, if the HORSE DEATH COUNT box appears back in So. Cal newspapers, the whole future of CA racing will be at risk. This all came about because of ultra high fatality and injury rates. Personally, I always did very well on synthetic surfaces. The prices are better and those who can watch a horse and see if it has good action, or conversely dislikes a surface had a big advantage over players who can only pick a horse based on numbers, like a stock analyst. It gave an edge to those who put observing the horse over times and variants.LetItRideMikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2000505714543202206.post-21752647628067961962010-12-04T13:32:33.172-06:002010-12-04T13:32:33.172-06:00I don't bet the synths or all weather as we ca...I don't bet the synths or all weather as we call it in England. The Polytrack does not favour gamblers with favourites having a worse record than on turf.<br /><br />Its value is at present with the country frozen it allows the mugs and addicts and some very clever players something to bet on. That's it's sole purpose.<br /><br />Sure it's nice come Breeder's Cup for us Euros but that is hardly a reason for the US to indulge this stuff. <br /><br />As you have pointed out Brian there is a lot can be done for horse welfare and changing the track was a sop/panacea rather than tackle other things.bedfonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08734407435275515547noreply@blogger.com